Hi Marissa! I found it interesting that your mom felt that the best way to learn a second language would be in the classroom if students wanted to use the correct grammar in an instructed setting. Ortega (2013) describes the example of Wes, a Japanese artist whose L2 was English and he learned it without instruction. Ortega (2013, p. 55) states that he “remained unable to master the L2 grammar despite what seemed to be sufficient time and ideal environment conditions.” I think that this relates to what your mom felt as students could learn to speak English in a natural setting, but they might not be able to pick up on the correct usage for grammar, which is important for their mastery. Also, I liked how your mom explained how she would use many different strategies to help her students with learning vocabulary words such as the written word, a picture, or something tactile.
Hi Krystal! I too was surprised to hear that my mom thought the best way for students to learn a second language was through a classroom/instructional setting. I guess that the best way to learn proper grammar as well as the written word would be through this type of environment. I think I still believe what Ortega states in the textbook however, that students learn a second language best when they are in a naturalistic as well as instructional setting.
Hi Marissa, I really enjoyed your post and I love that your mom is an educator in the bilingual field. I know she has to be doing amazing things as a bilingual diagnostician now. I am inspired by the fact she was interested in consistently updating her knowledge on bilingual education so that she could teach her students in ways that stayed up to date with current research. Many teachers fall into a rut and do not like changing their methods even when studies prove the benefit of adjusting their instruction. I like and agree with what your mom referenced when talking about her students’ motivation in learning English. Her students seemed to inhabit integrativeness like Ortega (2013, p. 172) mentions. This is because, like she stated, her students showed that they wanted to be able to enjoy the English community by listening to music, watching TV and conversing with their peers.
Hi Emily! I agree with you that it is super important that teachers stay updated on their approaches to instruction. My mom is always going to professional developments and is constantly looked up to as the person for these types of resources. I also agree with you and my mom that students’ motivation for learning English can fall under the category of wanting to fit in with other peers. Like you mentioned, as well as Ortega, students can develop a certain integrativeness when it comes to learning to fit in their environment, which can include learning a new language.
Hello Marissa, first of all, I'd just like to say that I think it's so cool that your mom is in the education field and that you have someone really close to you that has experience and that you can turn to for help. Just like Krystal, I think it's interesting that your mom believes that the best way to learn a second language is in a classroom setting. But that might be because, as you mentioned in your 2nd blog, she learned English through her siblings and then through school so she might be reflecting on her own experience. I agree and think it might be easier for students to learn english through an instructional setting because as Ortega states “In instructional settings, a good proportion of errors appear to be responded to” (pg 73). At school, those students will have teachers who speak that new language and that can help them improve.
Hi Gabriela! I can definitely understand why you and my mom believe learning a second language would be most beneficial through a classroom setting. Like you mentioned students can get professional assistance and learn the correct way to speak, read, and write their second language without making too many beginning errors. I think from my own personal experience with attempting to learn a second language however, I think students learn best through a mix of instructional and naturalistic environments because they can be immersed with the language as well as learn its proper grammar.
Hi Marissa! I enjoyed watching your interview! I liked that your mother mentioned that in a natural setting we learn social language, and in the classroom, we learn an academic language. I think learning in the classroom also helps the students in writing and reading the language. For me in the case of Spanish, I knew how to speak it fluently and read a bit but being in a classroom helped me with things like grammar and spelling. Ortega mentioned the research about Wes learning English and how by interacting with people at work he was able to become more expressive and tell jokes in English (2013, p. 56). So, Wes's social experience helped him converse with those around him but as Ortega later mentions his grammar is not correct. So, I don't know if I would label either one the best way, but I think both play an important role in learning a language. Like Emily mentioned, I too liked that she would keep herself updated to new techniques. It reflects how much she cares for her students and what a wonderful teacher she was. I think some teachers find a way that works for them and stay there, but as teachers we can always learn new techniques that may help the student that is struggling.
Hi Alessandra! I think me and you both believe that students learn best through a mix of naturalistic and instructional environments when learning a second language. I agree that social language is definitely increased when the person is immersed in the culture and surrounded by the language as Ortega mentions in the textbook. I also agree with both you and my mom that it is important to learn new techniques to teach students that are struggling. The work of a teacher is never finished.
Hi Marissa! I found it interesting that your mom felt that the best way to learn a second language would be in the classroom if students wanted to use the correct grammar in an instructed setting. Ortega (2013) describes the example of Wes, a Japanese artist whose L2 was English and he learned it without instruction. Ortega (2013, p. 55) states that he “remained unable to master the L2 grammar despite what seemed to be sufficient time and ideal environment conditions.” I think that this relates to what your mom felt as students could learn to speak English in a natural setting, but they might not be able to pick up on the correct usage for grammar, which is important for their mastery. Also, I liked how your mom explained how she would use many different strategies to help her students with learning vocabulary words such as the written word, a picture, or something tactile.
ReplyDeleteHi Krystal! I too was surprised to hear that my mom thought the best way for students to learn a second language was through a classroom/instructional setting. I guess that the best way to learn proper grammar as well as the written word would be through this type of environment. I think I still believe what Ortega states in the textbook however, that students learn a second language best when they are in a naturalistic as well as instructional setting.
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ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed your post and I love that your mom is an educator in the bilingual field. I know she has to be doing amazing things as a bilingual diagnostician now. I am inspired by the fact she was interested in consistently updating her knowledge on bilingual education so that she could teach her students in ways that stayed up to date with current research. Many teachers fall into a rut and do not like changing their methods even when studies prove the benefit of adjusting their instruction. I like and agree with what your mom referenced when talking about her students’ motivation in learning English. Her students seemed to inhabit integrativeness like Ortega (2013, p. 172) mentions. This is because, like she stated, her students showed that they wanted to be able to enjoy the English community by listening to music, watching TV and conversing with their peers.
Hi Emily! I agree with you that it is super important that teachers stay updated on their approaches to instruction. My mom is always going to professional developments and is constantly looked up to as the person for these types of resources. I also agree with you and my mom that students’ motivation for learning English can fall under the category of wanting to fit in with other peers. Like you mentioned, as well as Ortega, students can develop a certain integrativeness when it comes to learning to fit in their environment, which can include learning a new language.
DeleteHello Marissa, first of all, I'd just like to say that I think it's so cool that your mom is in the education field and that you have someone really close to you that has experience and that you can turn to for help. Just like Krystal, I think it's interesting that your mom believes that the best way to learn a second language is in a classroom setting. But that might be because, as you mentioned in your 2nd blog, she learned English through her siblings and then through school so she might be reflecting on her own experience. I agree and think it might be easier for students to learn english through an instructional setting because as Ortega states “In instructional settings, a good proportion of errors appear to be responded to” (pg 73). At school, those students will have teachers who speak that new language and that can help them improve.
ReplyDeleteHi Gabriela! I can definitely understand why you and my mom believe learning a second language would be most beneficial through a classroom setting. Like you mentioned students can get professional assistance and learn the correct way to speak, read, and write their second language without making too many beginning errors. I think from my own personal experience with attempting to learn a second language however, I think students learn best through a mix of instructional and naturalistic environments because they can be immersed with the language as well as learn its proper grammar.
DeleteHi Marissa! I enjoyed watching your interview! I liked that your mother mentioned that in a natural setting we learn social language, and in the classroom, we learn an academic language. I think learning in the classroom also helps the students in writing and reading the language. For me in the case of Spanish, I knew how to speak it fluently and read a bit but being in a classroom helped me with things like grammar and spelling. Ortega mentioned the research about Wes learning English and how by interacting with people at work he was able to become more expressive and tell jokes in English (2013, p. 56). So, Wes's social experience helped him converse with those around him but as Ortega later mentions his grammar is not correct. So, I don't know if I would label either one the best way, but I think both play an important role in learning a language. Like Emily mentioned, I too liked that she would keep herself updated to new techniques. It reflects how much she cares for her students and what a wonderful teacher she was. I think some teachers find a way that works for them and stay there, but as teachers we can always learn new techniques that may help the student that is struggling.
ReplyDeleteHi Alessandra! I think me and you both believe that students learn best through a mix of naturalistic and instructional environments when learning a second language. I agree that social language is definitely increased when the person is immersed in the culture and surrounded by the language as Ortega mentions in the textbook. I also agree with both you and my mom that it is important to learn new techniques to teach students that are struggling. The work of a teacher is never finished.
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